As a cabinet maker, I'm offended at the misuse, and misrepresentation of this screw.
It might seem funny to you, and you may say "it's just a screw" but as I said it's misrepresentation, and it seems as though the "American" side of DIY network is really trying to take away the Canadian achievement of a far superior screw head.
edit - grammarThis message has been edited. Last edited by: GenericDerek,
Apr 03, 2013, 11:47 AM
An example, the Phillips head screw is called a Phillips head screw on DIY network, not a "cross drive" or "X drive", so why is a Roberson head screw called a "Square drive"?
Apr 03, 2013, 06:39 PM
You'll have to yell not only at DIY but everyone else in the U. S. of A. In the US, they are referred to as 'Square Drive" screws. In fact, I've never heard the name "Robertson" pertaining to a screw.
If you ask for square drive screws, you get square drive screws. The packages say square drive on the front. It's just what they are down here in the states. I just checked a couple of different boxes of square drives from different manufacturers. They all say square drive, the name Robertson cannot be found anywhere.
One of the guys on my crew is a professional cabinet maker - has been for years. He calls them square drives too.
We have slotted screws, Phillips head screws, Square drive and Star drive. Odds are you go to another country and you'll find yet more names for them.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Jaybee,
Apr 04, 2013, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by GenericDerek: An example, the Phillips head screw is called a Phillips head screw on DIY network, not a "cross drive" or "X drive", so why is a Roberson head screw called a "Square drive"?
To add: A cross drive or X drive is different than a Phillips head. An X drive is like two slotted indents, only set in an X pattern while a Phillips has depth in the center of the X. A Phillips screwdriver will not fit into an X drive screw.
Apr 05, 2013, 09:00 AM
I can't say I've ever heard them called Roberson screw either. And I suspect while a Canadian named Roberson may have come up with the design the vast majority sold in the USA and Canada are made in China not Canada.
Oh and most of the shows on HGTV US and DIY come out of Canada today anyway.
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Apr 05, 2013, 06:23 PM
I don't think Mr.Roberson really cares what his screws are called, so long as the royalty checks keep coming
Apr 06, 2013, 12:50 AM
Actually, according to the OP's link, the "square socket" drive screw was patented four years before Robertson was even born. Rather than invent it, Robertson perfected a method of manufacturing that made it more practical to produce the square drive screw.
And yes, the manufacturing rights were sold to China long ago.
Apr 08, 2013, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by nona: I don't think Mr.Roberson really cares what his screws are called, so long as the royalty checks keep coming
I could not agree more. Never heard the name Robertson applied to what we always called a Square #1 or #2. I too am offended.
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Apr 09, 2013, 02:47 PM
and once again, Frearson and Shepherdson fasteners are left out of the discussion. discrimination, I tell ya, discrimination!
(no, I can't find a use for those things, either)
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Apr 09, 2013, 04:05 PM
Friend of mine worked for Fleetwood Motorhomes and the tips and bits were called "Indiana" and in calling the home office for more...