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        Picture of Jaybee
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        Just a general warning to all on the DIY board - Don't even bother going to the kitchen forum right now. That sub-forum has been taken over by an automated spam-bot that is posting thousands and thousands of fake topics about drug links etc. It had the capability to generate a new post every minute or so - making it impossible to add any on-topic posts for review and to answer. Any real post added to the kitchen forum at this time will quickly get buried and will not be found.

        If you are a newbie here and have a kitchen related problem, please pick another sub-forum like General Home Improvement or Remodeling.

        I'm sure that the Kitchen forum will be purged soon, but it may take until after the holidays to get it done. When is is purged, any legitimate posts from the same time period will also be lost anyway.

        Beyond that, do not open any of the spam posts and do not click on any of the links.


        Jaybee
         
        Posts: 10418 | Location: Knoxville, Tennessee | Registered: Sep 27, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        If they make it a criminal offense they would get better control. LOL
         
        Posts: 1770 | Location: Applachain | Registered: Feb 27, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I think it is already a criminal offense.
        If they crash the site, it will definitely be a criminal offense.
         
        Posts: 319 | Location: Western NewYork | Registered: Jan 26, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        And it appears that they do read some of the responses as they have now moved into this forum.

        Disturbing and interesting at the same time.


        Jaybee
         
        Posts: 10418 | Location: Knoxville, Tennessee | Registered: Sep 27, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        quote:
        Originally posted by SturdyNail:
        I think it is already a criminal offense.
        If they crash the site, it will definitely be a criminal offense.


        The movie posts were likely in violation of the DMCA, as well as copyright infringement of data posted on the various sites from which MultiSpammers copied and pasted and posted. The copyright infringement would be actionable under civil statutes.

        The drug posts violated statutes preventing sale of prescription drugs without a script, although I don't know enough about the statutes to know the distinctions between attempted sale or actual sale.

        Hydrocodone is I believe a controlled substance, and sale of that w/o a script would I'm sure be a criminal offense as well.

        In addition, the posts invited innocents to use AmEx, FedEx and PayPal, which may be a criminal offense to involve them in illicit drug sales.

        Beyond that, an attempt to take down a forum is an offense, but I don't know if it's a DDOS or something similiar.

        So, yes, there are a range of potential civil and criminal actions which could have arisen from the posts.

        This message has been edited. Last edited by: GardenSprite,
         
        Posts: 1925 | Registered: Oct 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        ANY offer made to sell ethical medicines (prescriptions) without a valid prescription from an MD or DD or DVM is against Federal law. it used to be that any import of medicine not performed by a pharma was illegal, now it's allegedly restricted to individual prescriptions from outside the US. yes, you can't shop outside the borders. the recent meningitis scare at a Boston university? -- FDA had to issue a waiver of need before a proven but not licensed in the US vaccine could be brought in. that only happens when the CDC tells them to.

        so harboring these spammers is generally bad. but ISPs are legally protected under a "free speech" law which some cranks want to repeal because it lets you see things their political masters don't like.

        moral: policing is up to standards and practices of the ISP or board hosts. Scripps' standards are posted that this stuff can't be done.

        now, they just have to get back in the office and purge, posts and posters.

        they should modify the signup procedures as I put up earlier today so the weasels aren't as prolific. but that takes time and testing.


        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5811 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        They're gone. The moderators cleaned it up.


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        Posts: 831 | Location: Cary, NC | Registered: Aug 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
        Picture of GardenSprite
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        quote:
        Originally posted by swschrad:

        so harboring these spammers is generally bad. but ISPs are legally protected under a "free speech" law which some cranks want to repeal because it lets you see things their political masters don't like.


        I assume you're saying that the ISPs are protected, but is it statutory or constitutional protection? And to what extent does that apply if one of their customers is engaging in illegal activity and the ISP has either actual or constructive knowledge? Doesn't it have a legal obligation, not just a "policing" obligation, to prohibit illegal activity?
         
        Posts: 1925 | Registered: Oct 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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