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        Hello to all,

        Wanted to see if anyone has ever built or installed a flueless gas fireplace outside? we are doing a summer kitchen and this was suggested.

        The potential GC stated:

        - a lot less mess than w wood in the summer kitchen area using real wood with ashes, clean-up, etc
        - lower cost bc the you do not have to build a [higher] chimney.
        - you get all the heat bc none escapes out the flue
        - ease of use

        one thing for sure, there is nothing like a real fire, but if this is the way to go, I could always build a fire-pit in/near the pool area to burn real wood.

        Thank you and I do appreciate your experience and advice.

        Happy Easter to all,
        tstex
         
        Posts: 371 | Registered: Jun 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        The biggest single flaw with flueless gas fireplaces is that they generate huge amounts of moisture. Since you are looking at an outside install, this will not be a factor.

        Beyond that, my only gripe is that there is not very much 'real' about it. It looks good, but you don't get a realistic feeling that it's really burning in there. Sure, you'll get heat off of it via vents. Up to you to decide if realism is important.


        Jaybee
         
        Posts: 10483 | Location: Knoxville, Tennessee | Registered: Sep 27, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Thank you Jaybee.

        I too am wrestling w "the real" vs not. Since there are no safety or mechanical issues, this is going to come down to preference and cost.

        Happy Easter to All,
        tstex
         
        Posts: 371 | Registered: Jun 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        How difficult would it be for your day to day routine if it was a real wood burning fireplace? Do you have a source of firewood and a place to stack it?

        I've always thought that the best of both worlds (easy and realistic) is a wood burning fireplace with a gas starter.

        BTW - My invitation for the big pool party must have been lost in the mail as I never got it. Big Grin


        Jaybee
         
        Posts: 10483 | Location: Knoxville, Tennessee | Registered: Sep 27, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        We have 85 acres 65 miles WNW of our house, so I have TONS of firewood. Stacking would be done in the garage and I would bring enough out for each burn...nothing like a real fire.

        Re the party, should have everything done in the July-Aug timeframe...I'll send out the invites then. The person that travels the farthest will get the best seat in the house. Smile
         
        Posts: 371 | Registered: Jun 23, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I have a vent gas fireplace in our family room. While I like the look of a real fire, dealing with the wood, the ash, the chimney cleanings etc is more than I care to do. Around here termites can be a real problem, so wood storage becomes an issue. The other benefit with gas, in your outdoor environment is no blowing smoke to deal with. I get my fill of wood fires camping with the Scout troop.


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