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        Picture of CommonwealthSparky
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        Asbestos was a rather versatile product back in the day, for sure. About the only product it was not added to was lead paint. Eek


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        quote:
        Originally posted by swschrad:
        "Divide by ZERO, and what do you get?"

        my present budget for the back yard/patio/deck Razz


        Hear ya, as I too have placed an ongoing project into sequester mode as well.


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        just a quick note... if you haven't been to a reveal open house, and few can, Nicole's properties are all staged with antiques in good shape, and they look wonderful. went through the Minneapolis 4th Street open house yesterday, and it looks like a million bucks. the neighborhood is looking less foreboding since that started late winter/early spring. no waterfall countertops here, though, the house is pretty much period-correct.

        looks like there is a half-half cabinet of staging stuff that she uses to bring things in, and they were toy cabinets in two rooms. varnished plywood, nicely dadoed, looks like something you would whip up on a couple weekends after moving in because the toys were all over, and you hadn't figured out how the budget was going to work after making the down payment. it does fit a farmhouse style.

        there's a huge 3-porch place on the opposite corner that is looking much better, too. fix up the worst one on the block, and everybody else starts looking at their houses and sighing Wink

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        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I think the show premise of rehabbing the dingiest abode on the block is the only one going on the tube these days. Which speaks volumes of other shows, those that add designer fireplaces and outdoor showers. Confused
        Good to see.


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        it's not just the dingiest one on the block. Nicole does her househunting on the condemned list, and picks places that are too good to tear down... classics of their day unsullied by the marble and open concept guys. and she's getting beat out all the time by investors with backhoes who want to gentrify neighborhoods and drive away from Condo City with full pockets.

        there are a few other local idealists who are likewise losing out at city hall to the block razers. suspicion grows that not all the, ahem, paperwork is passed over the counter...

        listen through a few of the Tom Barnard Podcasts with Nicole. it's either have tried to get up to 20 houses at a time for rehab, and the city turns into a stone wall. ah, but if the're all on the same side of the block, mysteriously there comes another suitor with the bulldozer already running.

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        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Well sadly the old boy network will never pass. {$$$$ Big Grin} Odd how city hall knows what is best for areas the same people neglect


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        most neglect around these parts is due to two things... "greatest generation" folks who are getting very old and have let maintenance slide as the drug costs and stuff go up... and absentee landlords / slumlords.


        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        In these parts 90% [my guess] the decline is because of our practices of allowing jobs to travel to distant lands with kids filling positions at those factories. Vacant brick building abound in this area.


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
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        [QUOTE] Originally posted by swschrad:
        most neglect around these parts is due to two things... "greatest generation" folks who are getting very old and have let maintenance slide as the drug costs and stuff go up... [QUOTE]


        Or they're just not physically able to undertake maintenance because of their age, and/or because their focus is on other more important aspects at that time of their lives: adjusting to and trying to deal with family losses and declining health.

        Their Heirarchy of Needs changes drastically as they reach certain age and health levels.



        [QUOTE]Originally posted by CommonwealthSparky:

        I think the show premise of rehabbing the dingiest abode on the block is the only one going on the tube these days. Which speaks volumes of other shows, those that add designer fireplaces and outdoor showers. Confused Good to see. [QUOTE]


        TOH has been running a series on post Sandy beach remediation which is quite interesting. DIY also has its Catastrophe series, which like the renovation rescues and Nicole's programs address houses battered by some catastrophic devastation.

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        Posts: 1725 | Registered: Oct 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Actually have seen some of the current TOH shows about New Jersey. While I can feel their pain {lived through a flood or two myself} those shows hold little interest to me. How many times do you want to hear the term "breakaway walls" ? Confused One of those endearing terms destined to become part of the This Old House Drinking game in this abode. Luckily the show series was rather short by their normal standards, the second project may be more the to my liking.
        The project after Katrina in New Orleans was not to my interest either. Just my 2¢.
        The second project last year the rural 2 story A-frame was a real winner.

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        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Any new shows in the tube for RA?

        SPAM BUMP Frown


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        the new ones are still unfolding at 9 PM (10 Eastern) with the previous week's half hour following. they just started the Detroilet series, which is allegedly 4 or 5 shows.


        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Now, Swschrad, haven't you listened to the news of the Detroit bankruptcy and all the folks who believe that this is going to turn the city around? Confused

        I give Nicole and the crew credit for even coming to Detroit though. I wonder how much of her stuff will be stolen when they're not on site.
         
        Posts: 1725 | Registered: Oct 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        just read an opinion piece on CNN that for cities, the only thing that matters is positive cash flow. while that is simplistic, the fact is that many successive generations of city management are actually manglement, and they overspent their income.

        with the city declining on income, they either have to cut back or tax more to clear the issue. lagbolting everybody else is not a fix, it's a bandage, giving the present incompetent management from the state time to touch up their resumes and get out of town before they get stained.

        there are two case stories to look at... Gary, Indiana, where they just gave up.. and San Antonio, TX, where they sparked a renaissance. oh, wait, SA is back in the subprime bond business. seems they overspent on their pretty. sort of like Detroit, eh?

        if Detroiters don't buckle down and fix their section, nothing is going to work. this means doubling their property value and paying appropriately, getting the "geez, now we're the lousiest wreck on the block" stuff going... or fleeing and sending the whole thing down the drain. assuming any of the drains still work, and there is water to run in them.

        tough situation. it's sure worth a try, go Nicole! meanwhile, the judge in the BK case needs to get some independent advice on how to turn things around, and incorporate that. a private-sector bankruptcy specialist trying to clean up a government steeped in theft and mismanagement for two decades? he's as out of place as a nun in a men's club.

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        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Part of the problem with Detroit's situation is the loss of population as well as the mismanagement over several decades. That's not even addressing the relationship of Detroit as well as SE Michigan with the sometimes volatile auto industry.

        Unfortunately, it's not realistic for the Detroit residents to "buckle" down, because they're really at the mercy of the city administration. And other than the Indian Village and a few other wealthier areas, most Detroit residents don't have any discretionary income as it is. They've already rebuckled their financial belts as tightly as they can.

        Local news clips often feature one problem or another which plague the residents ...there haven't been too many lately on garbage not being picked up, but there are water main breaks, massive numbers of abandoned houses, delayed emergency response times and resulting casualties.

        The fire and police department are now spread thin and are hampered by these constrictions.

        Read the 3 paragraphs above the section "Live Blog" in the link below to get an idea what the Detroit Police Department is already facing.

        http://www.freep.com/article/2...25/NEWS01/310250032/

        Doubling property taxes would probably result in nonpayment of taxes, thus actually declining the revenue the city receives.

        As I've seen in my own city, tax scofflaws have figured out a way to remain in their house without paying full taxes and avoid the 3 year statutory provision by which unpaid taxes allow foreclosure by the taxing authority. What they do is simply pay the lower tax, typically the winter tax, which can generally be less than $100. The higher $1K to $4K taxes go unpaid and accumulate interest over the years.

        In the meantime, those who can get, do, i.e., get out of Detroit, sometimes into the neighboring suburbs which are now affordable after the recession. It's easy to spot the tranplanted residents: bars are sometimes put up on doors and windows shortly after they move in. They bring with them their well developed fear of crime.

        The bankruptcy situation is also tenuous. The Emergency Manager was appointed by the governor, and the EM's former law firm is handling the bankruptcy. Conflict of interest, ya think??

        http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/r...n-detroit-bankruptcy

        All you have to do is read the first paragraph to get insight on what's going on.

        In the meantime, the bankruptcy judge appointed another attorney to monitor the bankruptcy law firm's fees.

        See: http://milawyersweekly.com/mil...ptcy-guidelines-loom

        Tough situation, indeed.

        P.S. I've had trouble verifying the links after posting; some extra characters are inserted and I can't get them out. So the links may or may not work.

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        civic pride begets investment, which brings forth jobs, which gets that old Chamber of Commerce "each dollar spent locally circulates 35 times" engine ticking over. packing the jails with city-paid crooks would also be a good place to start. we have ample evidence over the past several decades that "grease" runs the joint.


        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I cringe when stadium projects are announced to save the local professional sports franchise from packing up the Mayflower moving vans at midnight. Every independent report ever written basically calls these "job saving measures" a wash at best.
        Ticket takers and peanut vendors are the salt of the earth, but not exactly the jobs of tomorrow.


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1389 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Sorry, but I must disagree. While she may not be the most knowledgeable, she has done this a time or two and she does have very good help. What appeals to me is the significant improvements she makes on some really rough houses and puts families back into these homes. At the end of the day, these old homes would be match sticks if she did not do what she does and that is real cool. And yes, it is fun to watch.
         
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        you are of course referring to the "Baltimore Mayflowers," a permanent stain on any member of the Irsay family.

        almost 2000 part time jobs lost at the HumpDump in Minneapolis now that the 2+ year project to build a new stadium to replace the standing one is getting underway. you gain 3000+ construction jobs at a higher wage and benefits package during that time. the math looks good to a politician. then you have 5000 people on the dole unless there is another project out there.

        IMPHO and I am not an "expert" with a PhD so I am probably right, you build an economy to stay by putting everybody to work so they can buy things and keep the flywheel going as more workers are needed, etc. and the folks who don't have sufficient housing would benefit more by rehabbing the standing poor stock than having weasels bulldoze it and put up 50 $300,000 condos that cost more a month than the mortgage would for one of 60 existing $150,000 value rehabbed house.

        (( there, this is now a relevant post ))


        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5475 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Saw that DIY ran stacks of the show. Which is nice as you can pick and choose a show. {I do not tape or Tivo}, really no need, its just TV after all.
        Did see the episode where Nic did "lead testing" on a bedroom wall. The producers really need to research proper lead testing methods. Just showing a bedroom wall paint test is grossly incomplete. {As well as thinking a 90 year old house is lead free}. HUD usually tests window casing, stool and aprons, door jambs, etc. Any painted surface up to a certain height. Where sadly, hungry kids will chew at.
        Just making someone aware of a dangerous issue present while not getting to technical and boring is a razor thin line, I think.
        Still enjoy the show as its more laid back approach is top notch, opposed to the fake drama of say "Renovation Realities" and its fake story lines.

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