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Jul 28, 2013, 12:34 PM
Dan Cordeiro
tile
how can you prep a laminate floor to lay tile without removing the laminate?
Jul 30, 2013, 12:11 AM
JazMan
Dan,

You're thinking of installing ceramic tiles over a laminate floor? Do you know that laminate floors are floating? They're not glued down, just sitting there.

Jaz


Tile 4 You llc - Troy, MI
Kerdi shower specialist - Ditra installs - Product-Method suitability consultation. I have NEVER made a mistake, I thought I did once...........but I was wrong!
Jul 30, 2013, 01:18 AM
Jaybee
You don't. A complete waste of time to lay tile over laminate.

Unless, of course, you are just into installing tile over and over and over again.


Jaybee
Jul 30, 2013, 11:24 AM
GardenSprite
quote:
Originally posted by JazMan:
Dan,

You're thinking of installing ceramic tiles over a laminate floor? Do you know that laminate floors are floating? They're not glued down, just sitting there.

Jaz



Well, you just made your second mistake, and that's spamming here. We chew you guys up and spit you out. You will be the subject of ridicule and taunts, and your business gets listed on a boycott list.
Jul 30, 2013, 10:01 PM
JazMan
quote:
Originally posted by GardenSprite:

Well, you just made your second mistake, and that's spamming here. We chew you guys up and spit you out. You will be the subject of ridicule and taunts, and your business gets listed on a boycott list.


What the heck are you talking about? What's with the threats? And you are.......?

Jaz


Tile 4 You llc - Troy, MI
Kerdi shower specialist - Ditra installs - Product-Method suitability consultation. I have NEVER made a mistake, I thought I did once...........but I was wrong!
Jul 30, 2013, 11:49 PM
GardenSprite
From the TOS for this site:

"No advertising is allowed."

The inclusion in your post of your LLC with descriptive services is advertising.

I am, as many others are, tired of people using this site to promote their businesses.

I won't deny that your post above has merit, but the inclusion of advertising lessens that merit because of your obvious personal/business interest.
Jul 31, 2013, 12:16 AM
JazMan
If this forum would like my input about anything "ceramic tiles", I will post my business name so people can search and learn something about me. They will find that I have over 40 years of experience and some people refer to me as an "Expert".

Otherwise anyone can pretend to know what they're talking about anonymously. I've read many posts from wanna-be expert tile guys. Some are real bad.

Jaz


Tile 4 You llc - Troy, MI
Kerdi shower specialist - Ditra installs - Product-Method suitability consultation. I have NEVER made a mistake, I thought I did once...........but I was wrong!
Jul 31, 2013, 10:18 AM
GardenSprite
Jazman, thank you for explaining why you include your company name in your post. I had automatically assumed it was to generate business, rather than validate your credentials. That typically is the norm here.

I checked your previous post, which did offer help but also included what could be considered as a soft touch sales pitch.

It has been pointed out to me by someone much wiser than I that perhaps I was too harsh with you in my assumption that you were another pesky spammer. I've thought it over, think there is merit to that observation, and offer my apologies to you.

My initial thoughts were that you were just another annoying spammer, with the intent of using this forum to advertise your services. Perhaps, and/or apparently, my conclusion was hasty.

I would offer an observation, however. There are many pros here who have validated themselves through their advice. We don't know their real names or the names of their businesses. It's their advice that validates them.

I would also suggest that you eliminate your place of business from your signature lines. Knowing that you're in Michigan, I searched the Michigan DLEG and found your Articles of Incorporation and 3 annual reports.

Although I did not review them, they would typically contain your real name or that of the incorporator of your LLC, address, possibly capitalization, and your resident agent.

That kind of information isn't something you would want to make available through this or other forums.

Again, I apologize for my hasty misjudgment of your intentions.

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Jul 31, 2013, 11:44 PM
JazMan
Thanks for your reply and reconsideration.

You said;
quote:
That kind of information isn't something you would want to make available through this or other forums.


That's my whole point. You may be right about I shouldn't allow all that info to be available, but that means I'm putting my reputation on the line and people can be assured I have a background that probably deserves attention.

"Jaz" is my "real" nickname, everyone knows me by that. It's funny to me that I'm having this discussion with someone named "Garden". How do people verify your reputation and if you know anything about the subject you give advice about? Not saying you don't of course, but.......

I'm registered on 10-11 tile forums and have answered thousands of questions through the years. I've seen others claim to be tile installers and give unsuspecting visitors really bad advice and of course they were thanked for it. People will believe almost anything that is written here if it makes at least some sense. That's not good.

Some forums have a strong "no advertising" policy. Those forums have a small participating audience. The successful forums allow visitors to search qualified contractors in their areas if they have any questions. It's a way to encourage us to donate our time and expertise to the forum so the forum can continue to operate and hopefully make money without paying anyone.

Me, I'm retired, and don't care about the possible benefits of someone seeing me here.

Jaz

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Tile 4 You llc - Troy, MI
Kerdi shower specialist - Ditra installs - Product-Method suitability consultation. I have NEVER made a mistake, I thought I did once...........but I was wrong!
Aug 01, 2013, 06:33 PM
GardenSprite
Jazman,

I think we view the issue of revealing personal information from different perspectives. You do it to validate your experience and credentials (which makes perfect sense). Others do it to protect our identity. It may also be a gender difference.

There are a few nutcases here who have caused problems and become threatening. One of them was a poster with a screen name of Mikem201. Read this whole thread through and you'll see what I mean:

Venting Issue in Plumbing, http://boards.diynetwork.com/e...1013504/m/2613934077

There was another one called Gallnt Knight who also became verbally abusive.

I wouldn't want either of those two characters to know my name or how to reach me.

But you raise an interesting question on how to validate yourself so that others can rely on your experience (interpreting the issue broadly).

As to how anyone can "verify my reputation", actually they can't. If I was a Master Gardener I suppose I could create a website and post credentials, but I'm not impressed with that program. And being an MG doesn't necessarily mean that I would give good advice.

In the gardening area as well, there are always going to be different methods of accomplishing results. Other experienced gardeners may not agree with me and that's their choice. I don't agree with professional landscapers who just plop plants in without loosening the root ball. Who's right, and/or is there any way to tell without doing the work yourself and watching for results? Gardening is as much art as science.

You're in a profession though that does require some credentials and experience, so I can understand your position.

And BTW, you can call me Sprite rather than Garden. Makes more sense. Smile

The only forums I've been on with no advertising policies were actually very successful, but they weren't advice forums. I don't have any firsthand knowledge of the effect of advertising on DIY participation, but I do know that it slows down my computer and I typically end up with a lot more cookies that I have to delete.

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Aug 01, 2013, 09:11 PM
Re-mdlr
All the spammers are killing this site. The rules say NO ADVERTISING IS ALLOWED. It doesn't say it is allowed if you have a good reason. Once one bozo advertises it is a green light to the others. This site has people capable of giving good advice.

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