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Oct 11, 2013, 12:05 PM
harleynut05883
I have a mysterious electrical issue and need help
My problem is my bedroom/bathroom is wired to the same breaker but sometimes the bathroom fan/lights doesnt work. The breaker never trips and nothing is ever out in the bedroom. What could be causing this?
Oct 11, 2013, 01:59 PM
CommonwealthSparky
Poorly made up connection near or somewhere after your bedroom wiring, faulty switch or poorly made up connection in the bathroom switch location, or poorly made up connection in the fan/light unit. Those ideas come to mind after a first read. Others on board will think of others as well. Trouble shooting is always a process of elimination. Good luck.


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Oct 11, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jaybee
Could also be a GFCI outlet on the bathroom end ot things. Of course, for this to have been the problem then somebody has to be hitting the 'R' button on the GFCI outlet to reset it.


Jaybee
Oct 12, 2013, 08:21 AM
CommonwealthSparky
That too !!! Big Grin Throw that sage advice into the trouble shooting bin as well. Good luck.


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Oct 17, 2013, 07:28 PM
harleynut05883
The thing is the wiring is not new. It is in a 1999 mobile home. The fan and light is seperate. I checked for loose wiring in the switches. It was ok. The gfci is ok! Im confident that I can troubleshoot it im just not exactly sure how.

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Oct 18, 2013, 07:45 AM
CommonwealthSparky
Something amiss in the fan/light combo itself, but not the main wiring connections?


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Oct 18, 2013, 11:27 AM
harleynut05883
Its not a fan/light combo. There is 2 light switches. One is for the fan the other is for the lights. I have 2 lights in there. 1 is over the sink and the other is close to the toilet.
Oct 18, 2013, 10:23 PM
Re-mdlr
I'm thinking inside the switch box that maybe you have one black wire feeding power coming in, and it goes into a wire nut that has two pigtails coming off (which means a short wire, one to each switch). So that the wire nut has 3 wires (probably black).

You say you checked for loose wires in the switches -- but how about in a wire nut that feeds the switches? If the power wire is not making good contact, you will have the problems you describe.

But I'm sitting here at my desk, no photos to look at. But it's simple to check (probably best with the power off).

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Oct 20, 2013, 08:12 AM
CommonwealthSparky
Certainly on to something there, Re-mdlr. I would venture a guess you have nailed it, but with trouble shooting that may be 99% the culprit. Big Grin


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Oct 23, 2013, 11:48 AM
harleynut05883
I checked the wire nut and all the wires are tite inside of it!
Oct 23, 2013, 02:37 PM
CommonwealthSparky
Sounds improbable but bad switches?


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Oct 24, 2013, 09:44 AM
harleynut05883
I changed 1 of the switches and it didnt help. I plan on changing the other one today and see what happens!
Oct 24, 2013, 10:58 AM
Re-mdlr
How about the wire nut holding all the white wires?? A bad connection there could be the problem also. There are lots of times when I'll grab a wire nut to pull out a set of wires and 'pop', a wire comes popping out because it wasn't properly connected.

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Oct 30, 2013, 02:04 PM
harleynut05883
Ok replaced both switches and checked the wire nut for loose wires. Still not fixed!
Oct 30, 2013, 05:17 PM
CommonwealthSparky
Are you confident in your abilities to use a voltage meter to check for proper voltage at the fixtures ? If that is a yes give it a try. May tell us something for sure.


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Nov 03, 2013, 11:53 PM
praveenchandra
Last month, I too faced this kind of problem with my bathroom connection. Actually, It will be happening with the connection. I think, At the time of construction, Proper wiring installation is not done. With that, I faced a continuous problem. Then with the suggestion of my friend, I consulted one of the well experienced electrician and solved my problem. Make sure to get the quick solution for these kind of electrical issues whenever we can face in any kind of situation.
Nov 25, 2013, 07:02 PM
harleynut05883
the house has been wired since 1999.It is a mobile home. I checked for voltage at the receptacles I got nothing at one of them. Im not sure where the power feed going to it comes from. I figured it was fed from another receptacle but the one I thought fed it has power coming in and out of it. I have no loose wires anywhere. The only thing I couldn't check was the exhaust fan wiring.
Nov 25, 2013, 07:26 PM
Re-mdlr
You say you got nothing at one of the receptacles -- you wouldn't happen to have a light switch that seems to do nothing would you -- if so, that light switch might operate that receptacle (or half of it, so check both plugs)

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Nov 26, 2013, 11:19 AM
harleynut05883
The 2 switches in the bathroom dont work. The receptacle that doesnt work is in the bedroom. Im not getting power in either plug. I was thinking power came in at the bedroom switch, went down the wall to a receptacle(that is working) and crossed the wall to the one thats not getting power. Am I wrong?
Nov 26, 2013, 01:02 PM
Re-mdlr
quote:
Originally posted by Re-mdlr:
You say you got nothing at one of the receptacles -- you wouldn't happen to have a light switch that seems to do nothing would you -- if so, that light switch might operate that receptacle (or half of it, so check both plugs)


My comment was to address the not working outlet, and not the bathroom switches. According to building codes, as you enter the bedroom there is supposed to be a switch to turn on a light as you enter. That light can be in the form of an overhead light attached to the ceiling, OR , the switch can operate an outlet so someone can have a table lamp plugged in, and then it would turn on. I was wondering if that non working outlet might be activated by a switch, such as the one entering the bedroom.

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The 2 switches in the bathroom dont work. The receptacle that doesnt work is in the bedroom. Im not getting power in either plug. I was thinking power came in at the bedroom switch, went down the wall to a receptacle(that is working) and crossed the wall to the one thats not getting power. Am I wrong?


Sitting here, I can't tell how your house is wired. But putting lights on the same circuit as outlets is not a good idea, but it's also not prohibited, and there is no telling how someone else wired it. You'd have to turn on and off circuit breakers to see what is hooked to what.

Now, none of this is to help solve your problem of the light switches in the bathroom, it just addresses the non working outlet, which I can't help but wonder why it does not work (or does the switch activate it?) And have you taken the cover plate off that outlet and looked at the wires?

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