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leviton decor timer 4 wires into 3 wire box?

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Dec 24, 2013, 10:53 AM
Kostia
leviton decor timer 4 wires into 3 wire box?
Hi,
I just bought a Leviton Decora timer that thought would work in a regular switch box. However it has 4 wires:
hot, Neutral, ground and Load. I sit possible to connect it into 3 wire switch box? I am trying to get is used as a switch for a towel warmer.
Thanks
Dec 24, 2013, 04:01 PM
Sparky617
It sounds like it is an electronic dimmer and needs to have a neutral connection to work.

Load goes to the device, hot is the line from the breaker, ground bonds it to the box and bare wire, and neutral goes to the white wire.

If you have a switch leg circuit this switch won't work.


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Dec 24, 2013, 04:07 PM
Sparky617
Here is a diagram of a switch leg circuit. In a switch leg circuit the power comes into the device and one piece of 14-2 wire goes from the device to the switch. In this way of wiring you do not have a neutral in the switch box.

http://www.indepthinfo.com/wir...h/light-switch.shtml


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Dec 25, 2013, 08:18 AM
CommonwealthSparky
Great idea Sparky617 to post that type of set up. I have been told but yet have to see it but this set up becomes illegal per NEC 2014. Obviously this means new & remodel construction. Still I need to research this one.
Something about always having a neutral present in a switchbox. Future up grades I'm guessing.

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Dec 25, 2013, 09:18 AM
CommonwealthSparky
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sparky617:
It sounds like it is an electronic dimmer and needs to have a neutral connection to work.

Load goes to the device, hot is the line from the breaker, ground bonds it to the box and bare wire, and neutral goes to the white wire.
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If it is a dimmer would you really want to install it as the fixture {towel warmer} would have its own control settings? Just curious.

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Dec 25, 2013, 09:22 PM
Sparky617
I read dimmer not timer when I first read the post. I was skimming fast. I would think if it is a timer you'd need a neutral and a switch leg set up wouldn't be the right way to wire it.

Don't work as an electrician so I'm not current on the code. I hadn't heard that switch legs wouldn't be allowed in the new code, but I could see the logic as more controls are becoming electronic versus physical.


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Dec 26, 2013, 07:50 AM
CommonwealthSparky
I'm not sure either exactly what the OP has purchased for the trade out. But most if not all devices that come prepackaged have a printed diagram inside the box.
Still researching that neutral present being needed in all switch boxes starting in 2014 work. I have yet to see it in actual print, just heard it on the jobsite. As that set up is a lifesaver when doing upgrades that do not allow blasting holes in the walls & ceilings. Must be about 20 trillion in homes across the states as is. Big Grin

Will post more info on this when I latch onto it. Big Grin

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