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        Although I do enjoy this show and others like it, I cringe when I see remodelers smashing windows, cabinets, countertops and bathroom fixtures, etc. that could easily be recycled. Why not make the shows more eco-friendly and recycle this stuff? How about Habitat for Humanity or similar organizations?
         
        Posts: 1 | Location: United States | Registered: Jan 04, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        This comes up a lot on these boards - if you search around you'll see lots of query's like yours. You may not like the answers, but here it goes:

        1. It's TV. They want to show lots of action. That action includes all those manly shots of breaking stuff and tossing them in the dumpster. Some viewers love it, some hate it.

        2. TV show remodeling (and in fact even real world remodeling) is very time sensitive. Removing stuff by ripping it off the walls takes a few seconds. Removing it carefully so that it can be reused can take a lot longer. When you simply do not have the time then it's a no-brainer - rip it out and move on.

        3. A lot of this stuff is not really reusable. Sure, it may look OK on your TV screen but a closer look shows rot, rust or other damage.

        4. Habitat and other such organizations don't really take that much stuff. I've tried with them many, many times and they will pick and choose with a net result of taking about 1/4 of what we have carefully removed. So now we're out the extra time (which is money) to carefully remove stuff that we now just have to throw away anyway.

        5. All that stuff that is removed for reuse has to be stored somewhere. You don't get to take out a kitchen sink and walk it out to the waiting Habitat truck. Everything removed has to be stored inside someplace - often for days or weeks. Space on an active construction site is always at a premium. When it comes down to storing your brand new kitchen cabinets or the remains of the old cabinets - the old ones will be put outside under a tarp. All it takes is one windy rainstorm and those old cabinets are total trash anyway.

        6. What you don't see (because it's not a part of the story line of the TV show) is that every effort is made to recycle as much as possible. The homeowners themselves, the production crew, neighbors - basically anyone who is local are offered any and all of the old material.

        In the same vein, you have to realize that recycling is strictly a local thing. Nobody is going to pay more in shipping costs for a used item than what they can buy a brand-new version for in their local market.

        7. The bottom line is time and cost. It is all too easy for it to cost thousands of dollars just so you can save cabinets worth a few hundred. Add in the fact that most are not in realistic reusable condition and you see why much of it ends up in the dumpster.


        Jaybee
         
        Posts: 10421 | Location: Knoxville, Tennessee | Registered: Sep 27, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I wouldn't care what they put thought my window I have a tolet that's going thought the floor im disabled and have a hard time getting money to redo it I just keep saving a little at a time and would love to hear from anyone on a cheap way to do it
        Thank you


        Ann Cameron
         
        Posts: 1 | Registered: Jan 04, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I tried to donate a washer, dryer and frig to Habitat for Humanity. Out of a total of 7 calls, only one was their return call. I got bounced around, referred to other Habitat offices, and eventually just stopped wasting my time.

        If I do have anything to donate in the future, I wouldn't even bother with Habitat.

        In fact, after that experience I donated a freezer to a charity, but didn't even bother calling Habitat.
         
        Posts: 1928 | Registered: Oct 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Our HFH reuse store takes about anything in used building supplies. They really should cull the crap out a bit better.

        If as a homeowner you want to donate your materials when having a professional do the renovation if you are physically able do the removal yourself and have the charity come pick it up if they will. That will save you some money as your contractor will save time and money not having to landfill the cabinets.


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        Posts: 847 | Location: Cary, NC | Registered: Aug 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I hate seeing that waste also but, when time is valuable, out it goes. If you got time and Craigslist available online: it's a great place to make a buck on your better items. Post it "for sale" there or post it in the "Free Stuff" heading. Lot of people put good items out by their street then post in Free Stuff a list or picture with "Curb Alert", and address. It won't be out there very long. Do it!
         
        Posts: 1 | Registered: Sep 18, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        We set out all old stock removed and place the olde FREE placard on those items. Amazing how fast those things disappear. We always chuckle and say, bet that guy is in big trouble when arriving home with that wore DH window unit or a kitchen cabinet or two.


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1535 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        I think some people grab up literally anything, perhaps with the idea of fixing it up. At one time several years ago it wasn't unusual to see trucks driving slowly, stopping occasionally to pick through the trash set out for pickup.

        What did annoy me though was when they opened up boxes of trash and went through it, sometimes not even putting the stuff back in the box. Mad

        I think some of them may also have been looking for recycleable metal, as I occasionally saw piles of it in the truck beds. Hopefully they aren't the same ones that are breaking into the vacant houses and removing the copper and plumbing!

        On a related note, our community newsletter advised that Habitat for Humanity has built 2 houses in our city and is looking for more projects. I might give them a call, but my first question would be whether they require the homeowner to sign an indemnification agreement, which I suspect they do.


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        Originally posted by Sparky617:
        Our HFH reuse store takes about anything in used building supplies. They really should cull the crap out a bit better.


        I suspect there may be a difference in motivation level, depending on the area. As I wrote, I couldn't even get them to return my phone calls, beyond one message they left, and I had good appliances available for donation. Maybe it's the Detroit Malaise.

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        Posts: 1928 | Registered: Oct 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        pack rats, scrappers, and folks on the outs (including college students) are the types I see taking the "FREE" pile we periodically place on the front curb. nice newly married couple got our old sofa, but we had to talk them into taking the ottoman that matched.

        if something is fully and truly broken, like the snowblower that threw a rod, I sign it so a handy type doesn't get frustrated. the scrapper was glad to get 150 pounds of steel in one wrassle.


        sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money?
         
        Posts: 5818 | Location: North Burbs, MN | Registered: Mar 14, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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        Originally posted by swschrad:
        pack rats, scrappers, and folks on the outs (including college students) are the types I see taking the "FREE" pile we periodically place on the front curb. nice newly married couple got our old sofa, but we had to talk them into taking the ottoman that matched.

        if something is fully and truly broken, like the snowblower that threw a rod, I sign it so a handy type doesn't get frustrated. the scrapper was glad to get 150 pounds of steel in one wrassle.


        Many a local in these parts travel a daily route picking up scrap metals that are put out. Helps in the world we live in. {Don't we all tire of that one}. Today I scrapped a small length of 4' fencing, pile of metal curtain rods and a badly dinged ss sink. No room to load out and except for the stainless, no a lot of value. Was gone, gone, gone by noon.


        Popeye only reached for the Spinach can as a last resort...
         
        Posts: 1535 | Location: Central Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 02, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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