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Jan 03, 2014, 10:30 AM
somsomy
Door knob won't uninstall!
I wanted to replace the interior door handle for one room to ones with key locks. Except I can't uninstall the old door knobs.

After I removed the knobs and rosettes from both sides. I found no screws just two long holes on each side. There does seem to be a latch in one of the slits on the exterior side of the door but I can't seem to do anything with it. Its not budging.
I attempted to try and pry them apart but I don't want to ruin the door.

Has anyone encountered this kind of door knob. It's really old. I would appreciate any help!

door with no screws!

Jan 03, 2014, 10:59 AM
somsomy
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Originally posted by somsomy:
I wanted to replace the interior door handle for one room to ones with key locks. Except I can't uninstall the old door knobs.

After I removed the knobs and rosettes from both sides. I found no screws just two long holes on each side. There does seem to be a latch in one of the slits on the exterior side of the door but I can't seem to do anything with it. Its not budging.
I attempted to try and pry them apart but I don't want to ruin the door.

Has anyone encountered this kind of door knob. It's really old. I would appreciate any help!

Jan 03, 2014, 11:15 AM
Conrad
Did you also remove the screws and strike plate from the edge of the door? Often times this passes through the handle mechanism and holds it in place.
Jan 03, 2014, 12:35 PM
somsomy
Yes, I did remove the screws from the strike plate; it didn't seems to do anything.
Jan 03, 2014, 01:10 PM
Conrad
Can you wiggle it and pull the latch all the way out of the door edge?
Jan 03, 2014, 01:46 PM
somsomy
No, I cannot seem to. I tried prying it but I ended up chipping the top off of my flat head screwdriver Frown

Is the latch supposed to come free from the side of the door?
Jan 03, 2014, 02:01 PM
Conrad
Don't know for sure. You do have some good pictures. You might take copies down to a local locksmith and get their opinion? They are often very helpful, if you bring them images.

Sometimes the ring plate, (against the room side of the door knob assembly) either pries off with a narrow screw driver (protect the door with a flat piece of metal) or the whole plate unscrews. Might try using a blade knife and carefully cutting through the paint layers to check?

If it were me.... I would plan on replacing the entire lock/latch assembly. If it is older, getting a new knob/lock to work in it might be a tough marriage of parts.
Jan 03, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jaybee
It sure looks like those tabs are what holds it in place - could be that the plates are stuck to the paint on the door.


Jaybee
Jan 03, 2014, 03:04 PM
somsomy
Thanks for the replies!

I did try prying the whole rosette off the door but its on there tight. Honestly, I don't think its the paint because the screwdrivers are bending (and they're good one too!)

I already bought an all new door knob with lock assembly, not looking to replace any parts. However, I would need to remove the old one. I have replaced door knobs and things before and its usually a simple task with a screwdriver or two, but never encountered this thing before. It is a really old house from the 60's in DC, don't know if that helps anyone..?
Jan 03, 2014, 04:46 PM
Jaybee
Haven't seen this style before so just guessing: Any chance that the rosette is threaded on?


Jaybee
Jan 03, 2014, 08:58 PM
somsomy
Hi, I'm not sure what you mean; do you mean put straight through the wood of the door instead of from either side? No, honestly, its really stuck on; anyone hear of gluing door knobs to a door? Cause this thing ain't moving!

Thanks for your help
Jan 03, 2014, 09:26 PM
Conrad
You are lucky these look to be solid wood doors.
I might just start carefully hammering away at the remaining metal parts and see what comes apart? I had to get a garage man door, knob/assembly off in this manner many years ago. It was pretty satisfying, as I recall. Smile

If nothing else, since you want a lock, have you considered just adding a keyed deadbolt above this existing door latch?

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