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Sep 02, 2013, 05:27 PM
Jason080977
Front door won't close and leaks
This is an addendum to my earlier post, with pictures. Orange door very hard to close, vestibule leaks. Patch job didn't work. Door leaks air in winter. Vestibule getting damaged by water. Need to fix properly this time and I don't know how. Thanks for your help.
Sep 02, 2013, 09:57 PM
GardenSprite
Just to let you know, I could only get through the first two rows of photos and partway through the third row before the Runtime program froze. This happened three times before I gave up.

Perhaps it's just my computer but I thought I'd let you know in case others are having problems as well.

It looks like the orange door is the internal door, there's a concrete sort of stoop with a very small vestibule, or actually a large space between the internal and external doors, and then the external white framed door. Is this accurate?

Is the orange door hard to move in the open position or just when you try to close it, or both? It does look as if it's been painted more than a few times and fits pretty tightly. Same with the white exterior areas. Which door leaks air? The orange or the white one?

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Sep 03, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jason080977
Garden sprite,

Thank you for commenting. I'll look into the picture issue. The orange door is the main door, the white is a storm door that can have a screen put in. The space between the two doors is just enough to stand in and get the mail (a small mailbox fits along the side wall.)

The orange door is only hard to close, it swings freely otherwise. The orange one leaks air.

Again thank you.
Sep 03, 2013, 09:11 AM
GardenSprite
Just a basic suggestion, not very analytical or sophisticated...

Are you in a high moisture area, or one which periodically experiences high moisture? Here in Michigan my side wood door swells during periods of high rain and I have trouble closing it. Because I end up pushing it, the screws tend to work loose so I have to periodically tighten them.

It only happens with the door that's used the most. Front door is fine and doesn't swell.

Just something to think about.
Sep 08, 2013, 08:30 PM
raidencmck
I have a thought but wanna know first when does it leak? And is it hard to shut all the time or some of the time?
Sep 09, 2013, 07:46 PM
Jason080977
It's hard to shut and open all the time, maybe worse in the summer. The vestibule ceiling leaks when it rains, moderately or more. Thanks.
Sep 10, 2013, 08:13 PM
raidencmck
My door faces a field and during storms when the wind is blowing the rain toward the house we take on water. It was improperly installed by previous owner and his solution was to foam it shut. We have since made it usable. But the real damage was done. And much of the area around the door has swelled or is deteriorated. Do you see any rub marks where the door is touching when it is closed?
Sep 10, 2013, 08:21 PM
raidencmck
Did you caulk behind the storm door frame before you put it in? Also in picture 12 it seems that the face of the wall is in front of the storm door. So as water hits the face of the wall it runs down and into the top of the storm door frame and does not have a way to exit other then the vestibule. Maybe a small piece of flashing/drip edge that allows the water running down the face of the trim to drip in front of the door instead running back to the door and entering the storm door. Also noticed the flashing above the door where stone meets wood looks a bit bent up. And at the bottom of the wood door the rain gaurd(that has the drip edge on it)seems to be in pushing on the gasket which will cause wind to enter the house.

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